Group A: People who go to licensed dealers and gun show and purchase their firearms where they are registered with the federal authorities. They obtain permits to carry concealed firearms after hours of safety training and hundreds of rounds of practice fire and after intense scrutiny into their criminal record. They spend hundreds and even thousands of dollars on high end firearms and ammunition that is held to the highest level of quality and safety control. They spend hundreds of hours and countless rounds of ammunition a year at the range. Some are former law enforcement and military personnel. They are some of the safest firearms operators on the planet. They purchase their weapons for hunting, sport, to exercise their God given right, and to assure the safety and well being of themselves, their loved ones, and their property. What they DO NOT do is perform drive-bys, knock off Seven-Elevens, mug people, and commit murder. For that matter they don’t commit hardly any type of crime because they have to maintain their permits to CCW.

Group B: People who commit murder, perform drive-bys, knock off Seven-Elevens, mug people, and generally have little to no regard for the law. What they DO NOT do is purchase their guns from licensed vendors or register them with law enforcement. They do not purchase high end equipment and ammunition from reputable dealers. They do not obtain legal permits to carry concealed weapons. They do not go through training in weapons use and safety. They do not go through any kind of screening process to weed out criminals (because that’s what they are). They purchase their fireams for any one of the aforementioned reasons

You still with me?

Now, using gun grabber logic, you can stop and prevent Group B from committing all the terrible things they do by taking guns away from Group A.

If you disagree, then please enlighten me.
Mountain Man,

To acquiring a CCW in Ohio requires an intense background check and a 17 hour training class that covers safe operation, accuracy practice, and the mental preparation to use a firearm in self defense. By the end of the course each participant will fire approximately 200 rounds of ammunition at the range. Please don’t tell me I’m wrong when I clearly have more knowledge on the subject than you.

http://www.moftaohio.com/classes/concealed-carry/

Eddieroachr

I think you would agree that a straw buy would fall under the canopy of "illegally purchased". Law abiding citizens tend to do just that; abide by the law.
Mountain Man,

Aside from the fact that I think you have a myriad of your own issues, I disagree with the idea that you can affect a group of UNLAWFUL people by making new LAWS. The only people that will be affected by NEW gun legislation are people that obey CURRENT gun legislation (i.e. Group A and not Group B).

Be sure to read the comments, you will find more information about firearms dealer license

I am going to be attending a gun show in Georgia and am Florida resident. I am aware that gun laws vary from state to state and am wondering if anyone can tell me what the law in Georgia is for gun shows. Thank you.

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I am wondering if the Federal Firearms Law(s, there are many) Loophole which states (and this may be pieced together from different laws, but I believe this is true:)

"Sales or Transfers of Firearms between Private Individuals that are not Licensed FFL Holders, namely those that are not Actively Engaged in the Business of selling or dealing firearms, may transfer or sell a firearm to a Private Individual that is not an FFL holder that is also not Actively Engaged in the Business with no provision of a record check required."

This, I believe, is what got a lot of people in an uproar because the idea was that "Anyone can go to a Gun Show and buy whatever they want." The reality is, however, that 95% of the people at a Gun Show are licensed FFL holders, and ATF and Police are there to enforce those sales, and process Form 4437 for those sales from FFLs….

… However, gun people also pointed out that making laws for Gun Shows was silly, since the above "Cash-and-carry Private Non-FFL Citizen to Private Non-FFL Citizen" sales were legal in the parking lot.

I want to know if this loophole is still in effect. If it is, I have a ray of light for my situation, and have a way to (as legally as possible) achieve my goal of my 2nd Amendment Right, without breaking (one of the) Federal laws. There are many, but as far as I know, this clause has not yet been closed.

I also wondered at one point if it only applied to sales of Long guns… I know someone knows the answer to that too.

Thanks, I surely do appreciate the info.

PS: I am asking so that I can be as informed as possible, some of you know my previous posts. I am not the type to give up. Thanks.
* Added info, 2 minutes ago: This info is directed to John T. Mr. John T, I tried to mail you but you do not allow that…

I thank you for reading my other posts. I am glad you understand what I am getting that. I even tried to allude to it in my posts that there are different Federal laws, and that this one I have questioned is how I will have to obtain my weapon. I do also know that getting caught with it is my butt. I thank you for seing this, and I wanted you to know I appreciate your, the first poster’s, and all the other person’s info.

I must wrap it up with this: NJ is trying to remove the rights of people -nationwide- to own firearms. I can not let my rights be stramrolled. I have joined the NRA today, and will be pursuing expungement, rights restored, and a possible Constitutional challenge to the gun laws of NJ. As far as me possessing a Firearm, I am about to go to a Gun Show in Texas. It appears I do not even need ID for the private sales.

& No Loophole. I am pro-gun. JC

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