Will someone tell me where I'm mistaken?

Group A: People who go to licensed dealers and gun show and purchase their firearms where they are registered with the federal authorities. They obtain permits to carry concealed firearms after hours of safety training and hundreds of rounds of practice fire and after intense scrutiny into their criminal record. They spend hundreds and even thousands of dollars on high end firearms and ammunition that is held to the highest level of quality and safety control. They spend hundreds of hours and countless rounds of ammunition a year at the range. Some are former law enforcement and military personnel. They are some of the safest firearms operators on the planet. They purchase their weapons for hunting, sport, to exercise their God given right, and to assure the safety and well being of themselves, their loved ones, and their property. What they DO NOT do is perform drive-bys, knock off Seven-Elevens, mug people, and commit murder. For that matter they don’t commit hardly any type of crime because they have to maintain their permits to CCW.

Group B: People who commit murder, perform drive-bys, knock off Seven-Elevens, mug people, and generally have little to no regard for the law. What they DO NOT do is purchase their guns from licensed vendors or register them with law enforcement. They do not purchase high end equipment and ammunition from reputable dealers. They do not obtain legal permits to carry concealed weapons. They do not go through training in weapons use and safety. They do not go through any kind of screening process to weed out criminals (because that’s what they are). They purchase their fireams for any one of the aforementioned reasons

You still with me?

Now, using gun grabber logic, you can stop and prevent Group B from committing all the terrible things they do by taking guns away from Group A.

If you disagree, then please enlighten me.
Mountain Man,

To acquiring a CCW in Ohio requires an intense background check and a 17 hour training class that covers safe operation, accuracy practice, and the mental preparation to use a firearm in self defense. By the end of the course each participant will fire approximately 200 rounds of ammunition at the range. Please don’t tell me I’m wrong when I clearly have more knowledge on the subject than you.

http://www.moftaohio.com/classes/concealed-carry/

Eddieroachr

I think you would agree that a straw buy would fall under the canopy of "illegally purchased". Law abiding citizens tend to do just that; abide by the law.
Mountain Man,

Aside from the fact that I think you have a myriad of your own issues, I disagree with the idea that you can affect a group of UNLAWFUL people by making new LAWS. The only people that will be affected by NEW gun legislation are people that obey CURRENT gun legislation (i.e. Group A and not Group B).

Be sure to read the comments, you will find more information about firearms dealer license

Are there different classes you can take that allow a civilian to own and/or carry certain firearms?

I have heard various answers from people in law enforcement but are there certification courses that a civilian can take that will allow them to legally own, operate, and/or carry firearms that fall under FFL levels 2&3 or is just having the tax stamp enough? For instance, I have a very small apartment and I would like to buy a short shotgun so that I can move freely around my home and be able to quickly present the shotgun if there is an intruder, however there are laws prohibiting me, as a civilian from owning a shotgun with a barrel that is less than 18" or one that is under a certain over-all length. Is there a class I could take that would allow me to own and use a firearm like this legally? I would also like to purchase a suppressor for my .45 because I am concerned that if I had to discharge my firearm in an emergency, self defense situation, in my home, that I could damage my hearing.

I have talked with retired police officers, military personnel, and gun store employees and received very mixed answers on this subject. I realize it probably depends a lot on where I live. I live in Virginia, a shall issue state so I would think, with the exception of maybe Florida or some Western states that are even more relaxed on gun control, if it is possible to obtain a license or certification to own something like this I would be able to here. I have, as I stated before, also heard that simply paying the tax stamp and going through a 2 or 3FFL dealer would be enough but I would like to make sure so I don’t create any trouble for myself. Thanks for any help.
I was asking more in generality tho. Most of the FFL 2&3 firearms I am interested in I wold like to have simply to take out to the range and have a good time with. The short shotgun and suppressor are two of the few I would pick as ideal self defense.

Unknown, I own both a .45 1911 and a 9mm Baby Desert Eagle, I practice often at the range but I have been present for an accidental discharge in tight quarters and it is very loud. Also, I live in a rough area and have had armed men at my doorstep on more than one occasion, fortunately the sound of racking the slide on my .45 has been enough of a deterrent to avoid an incident. I have confidence in my shot placement when I am awake but the shotgun takes less thinking if I were to wake up out of a dead sleep and need to defend myself, my loved ones and/or my home.

Eddie, I realize the laws about the length, but as I said I am in extremely cramped quarters so it would be advantageous for me to have a smaller framed firearm.
Also Unknown you said "not in Virginia". Did you mean that there are states that Do issue a permit or license for these kind of firearms? I was watching some behind the scenes features on a DVD and they said that the weapons master on the set is one of the only civilians in the country licensed to own, operate, and supervise the use of a Glock 18c, which is a fully automatic handgun. That statement is actually one of the major things that sparked my interest and led me to ask this question.

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