Do they really believe that JUST to OWN a machine gun you have to set up a business, licensed by your state/county/city, get your Federal Firearms License as a DEALER, and pay the 0 a year Special Occupational Tax? (That is what a Class III License involves.)
Are they that ignorant of the fact that all you need to do so far as the Feds are concerned is to pass the background check and go through the red tape to transfer the registration?
I ask a question about fools and the first two to answer are fools.
I try to educate and get responses like this
"Gray Wanderer – Sorry to rain on your parade but to legally own a fully automatic weapon in the US you need a class III (Federal) Licence. Please dont try to pick apart other peoples answers until you know what you are talking about."
The ones I call fools are the ones who insist that they are right when they aren’t like the above example
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Yes Wanderer they are ignorant, but that doesn’t make them fools
It merely makes them ignorant so instead of ranting about how stupid they are try a little educating
Each one teach one and all that
However
A fool would be someone who comes in calling others stupid while simultaneously getting almost every point of his answer wrong
That would be you Jaggerman
You do not need a class 3 to buy a machine gun, you need it to sell them
A class 3 does not allow you to buy or possess post 86 automatic weapons, nothing does they’re banned for civilians
Automatic weapons are regulated by the feds so any state you live in you must go through the permission seeking procedure
Post 86 automatic weapons do not cost the same $400 as semi clones, that’s just ridiculous
Oh and you don’t pull your finger to bump fire
listen more talk less
calm down scarface.
All I can say is WOW !
This is why normal people are in favor of gun control. To keep them out of your hands.
I would hate to be around when you really get pissed off.
I didn’t even have to do that. I went to a pawn shop and paid for the AR-15 I wanted and picked it up the next day. Now I’m looking for a Hi-Point C-9. I don’t want to go through the regular legal channels to buy it so I’m shopping around and that’s all you really need is a willing seller and patience.
There are some people, who don’t know anything about firearms, but think ‘guns’ are ‘cool’. These are the same people who shoot one ragged hole, with a .22 at 600 yards, at night, using irons, with a converted airsoft rifle. Yea….those guys…they know who they are.
Because the vast majority of those answering questions here have absolutely no clue. I don’t know how many absolutely wrong answers I’ve seen to so many gun related questions that I wouldn’t dare try to even guess at the number. Anyone can do a quick search and find out the truth, … but instead they pull their answers out of thin air and do more harm than good in a category like this where ‘truth and accuracy’ are far more important than just answering for the sake of answering. Hopefully, no one gets hurt following some of these misguided responses. "My two-cents."
look, there is ‘tier one’ who thinks that 40mm is a proper way to say 40SW, Desert Eagle is a good gun, you need to register your guns, and pawn shops are somehow outside the normal loop of gun buying
you have tier two who know a thing or two about guns, but don’t realize that 9x19mm isn’t the only 9mm in the world, bigger must be better, so they want a 300 ultramag not a 30-06 for deer, and would swear that you can’t own machineguns at all
you have tier three, in the same way tier 2 uses terms so loosely as to be inacurate (I have a 38 cal revolver…hey is that 38 long, 38 new police, 38 special, 357, 9mm moonclip) but we get the general idea (38 cal revolver is probably 38 special) tier 3 people know a fair amount more and they have seen the guy selling machineguns at the gunshow who has a big sign that says CLASS 3, or the gun range that rents full auto, and they have a blurb on their website saying ‘we have class 3′ or who clicks on ‘class 3′ to see the wondertoys on auctionarms.com etc.
Rather than get mad, we need to explain that "Class 3" is a designation for a FFL who deals in machineguns, i.e. sell or rent them (making them is another FFL type, 7 I believe) and that in theory, average citizen can pay the tax stamp, jump through the hoops, and own one, but the biggest hurdle is that due to the closing of the machinegun registry in 1964, the supply is limited and in hot demand, so the cost is extremely high for any registered full auto, hence the 10,000 for even a simple machinegun like a greasegun is the real limiting factor.
In some states machine guns are banned and you do need a class III license to purchase a machine gun. Also only NFA machine guns registered before 1986 are legal to own and are becoming extremely rare and way too expensive for the average person to afford. The cheapest civilian legal full auto would be the Ingram or Cobray M11/M10 sub-machine guns, which run around $5000 plus the $200 NFA transfer tax. Most other legal machine guns cost way more than that. So if you want to pay $20,000 for a pre-86 AK-47 to LEGALLY own it in full auto be my guest, but otherwise you need to have a Class III FFL and then you can get a post-86 select-fire AK-47 for merely the same price as the semi-auto clones. For me I’ll just stick with my WASR-10 for $400. It does the same thing I just have to pull the trigger faster or bump fire it.
I know, I know. Relax. Breathe. Did you take your pill?
NFA list guns get referred to as "class 3" guns so often,
and, of course, they come from a class 3 dealer. People know there is paperwork involved but don’t relaize that the tax and registration isn’t called a class 3 liscense. They figure, It’s a class 3 gun, from a class 3 dealer, so they just assume the paperwork is, therefore, a class 3 liscense!
The ones that actually make the inventment and go through the process and actually buy a gun learn the difference, the wanna-be’s that can’t afford a transferrable will continue to call the tax registration what they will.
You can use it as a means of quickly determining if they know what the hell they are talking about or not.
@Don
lololol if you know anybody who can shoot and hit a fucking wall at 600 yards with iron sights with a .22lr PLEASE sign them up for the belive it or not show.
Look you cant go to a pawnshop and buy any gun you want full auto or not. You have to pay 10 dollars for a gun check through the T.B.I or whatever your local state agency is, that checks to make sure you havent been convicted of a felony or domestic violence and to make sure the gun your buying isnt stolen (takes about 15 mins normally unless you live in hippieville and it takes three days or week). The only way you can buy a full auto wep at a pawnshop is if they have class 3 to sellem and if you have the 200 dollar license to ownem and yes you CAN own ANY kind of full auto wep, at least you can here in Tennessee, maybe not in those treehuggin, hippie, liberal, obama lovin states. I know a guy who owns everything from a HK 9mm SD submachine gun to a full auto Hungarian AK-47w/grenade launcher and w/75 rd drum and his dad even owns a few tanks that work and they shootem on their farm all because they got 200 dollar stamp. I just got my first, its a Walther P22 with Advanced Armament Suppressor. My dad owns a pawnshop and thats how i know BTW…and the guy payin $20,000 for an ak-47 is smokin crack pre 1986 or not. My friends HK .45 UMP Submachine gun was expensive $1,200-5,000 pending on seller, hell a PSG-1 Sniper rifle is about $10,000 and thats super nice gun so would someone pay double for a old ak-47….? pre 1986 full auto weps for $20,000 LMAO!!!!